Green&White launches new beta!

September 20, 2007 at 2:00 pm 5 comments


When Osama A. Hashmi launched Green&White 5 months ago, people probably thought he was mad (and he is a bit mad actually!)

However, fortunately Osama is one of those positive mad geniuses whom I would stay away from whenever he is in a bad mood ;-), but whose views I generally respect even when he and I are not in agreement about something.

His vision for Green&White was the creation of a virtual place where CEOs, CTOs, Managers, Interns and Students met frequently and discussed challenges faced by the industry.

Why? Well, his contention was that as the Pakistani economy grows and old-school thinking is replaced by cutting edge business practices, new challenges crop up. To face this new set of challenges, he figures that “group thinking” is what is needed – to have constructive discourse to try and come up with viable solutions – in other words ‘to have Coffee Sessions’.

Has he succeeded? Well, I guess that depends entirely on your definition of success or his. I think the authors of Green&White have done a great job in bringing to the fore a number of issues. There have sometimes been very fiery exchanges – bystanders could be forgiven for thinking that this would result in these guys never talking to each other again. But they have come back for a ferocious debate on another subject.

Start-ups, too, have been highlighted. Telcos have been ripped apart as have bank services! 🙂 Sometimes I have been terrified to get in the midst of the exchanges but there has always been something new that Osama or one of the other authors has shared that I personally had not heard of before. It is a good effort and it will only get better if more people actually join the discourse. So why not visit the v.2 Beta release of Green&White? Put on your helmets if you are going to discuss blacklisting employees or companies! Otherwise it is a relatively safe place to hang out.

Well done guys! All power to you!

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5 Comments Add your own

  • 1. Osama A.  |  September 20, 2007 at 2:56 pm

    Jehan, these words are Golden — thanks for highlighting us here.

    I’m interested in learning all the different definitions of success so we can try and meet all of the expectations of the people who give his their time and faith and trust.

    The past 5 months have been a roller-coaster ride indeed — we’ve seen many interesting behavioral traits in hte midst of these debates — there are more people out there who like sparking fires and defaming or attacking others than I’d originally thought.

    Hopefully with our promises with v.2 we’re hoping to stop all the negative / attacking / rude commentry and make it an even more welcoming place for all.

    (Seriously though — tell us your definition of succes 🙂 )

  • 2. Osama A.  |  September 20, 2007 at 3:00 pm

    Oh and p.s. never be afraid to jumping into a discourse — we’ll watch out for you and we never let anyone gang up on any commenter (except ourselves)

  • 3. Heart-felt Words : Green & White  |  September 20, 2007 at 3:09 pm

    […] can read her full analysis here. Do you think we’re on our way in fulfilling the vision or do you feel that more is required? […]

  • 4. Jehan  |  September 20, 2007 at 3:30 pm

    Osama, I call ’em as I see ’em so no need to thank me. And I don’t think my definition of success should be relevant here. As I see it, some people measure success in terms of how much money you have made, others measure succees in accordance with the size of a project or company. My measurement of success always has been: Have I achieved what I set out to? Does it make me happy? Is it helping anyone else? Is it really something I want to do? If the answers to all of these questions is Yes, then I believe that at least I am on the path to eventual success. You have got to figure out what your defintion of success is in relation to Green&White. Personally I think it is on the right path … but does it really matter what I think? It shouldn’t.

  • 5. Babar Bhatti  |  September 21, 2007 at 11:01 pm

    Thanks for the candid coverage. Writing about and dealing with people issues has never been without sparks.


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