Why is it?

June 23, 2009 at 10:57 am 15 comments

questionI was chatting with a friend the other day and he said something that made me think. Why is it that we get quite agitated and haggle with fruit and vegetable grocers to reduce a few rupees on products we buy from them, and yet we don’t give it a thought when we casually leave a couple of hundred bucks as tips after a meal in a restaurant. Ever gave this any thought?

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  • 1. Why is it? / LiveFromPakistan  |  June 23, 2009 at 11:10 am

    Why is it?…

    I was chatting with a friend the other day and he said someth …

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  • 2. Syed Talha Izhar  |  June 23, 2009 at 11:36 am

    Point to think about…

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  • 3. Syed Asif Shah  |  June 23, 2009 at 11:43 am

    I think its something to do with the kind of culture that we have created for ourselves. Forget about the tips, we can easily pay a good amount (equal to a salary of houshold workers) to sometimes lousy food at posh resturants but cannot give voluntarily to a good plumber or an electrician for his services.

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  • 6. Sharjeel Ahmed Qureshi  |  June 23, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    Because we are misers in ourselves. I’ve seen millionaires holding salaries of lower staff as low as rs. 5000 for several months for apparently no reason at all!

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  • 7. Jehan  |  June 23, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    @Asif yes how do we evaluate the monetary worth of anything?

    @Sharjeel, you know millionairres!!!

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  • 8. ASim  |  June 23, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    couple hundred bucks for tip is considered a fashion…so the waiter and ur friends would think how kiind you are….
    and with fruit/vegetable grocers, lot of ppl think they belong to v low class and even talking to them isnt done in a sweet mood…so paying a few extrabucks is outa question

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  • 9. baan  |  June 23, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    😀 well I don’t haggle. Whatever one demands off of me I pay and neither do I tip heavily.

    I agree for some its fashion and for some its show (the pretty girl ure with must see how much money you throw around), one has to be practical and decide for oneselves what is the right amount. If you tip 500rs for a 4000rs meal you shoulddn’t be haggling for 20rs cut per kg on purchasing your melons. It just doesn’t dig!

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  • 10. Farzal  |  June 24, 2009 at 9:36 am

    Having lived in the US, my ability and desire to bargain has diminished. I had clarify before giving my 2 cents:

    One: I don’t think most people do this on purpose. I think anyone who read this, and was in a habit of bargaining, will never do this again.

    So its a matter of following established practices without thinking twice. Our people are good people and they will do the right thing once its been clarified / educated.

    Second: Where ever prices aren’t fixed, everyone – buyer & Seller – quotes a price keeping the potential bargaining in mind. 20% is an accepted number. So when a ‘discount’ is requested, its not really a discount but more of a rationalization.

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  • 11. Aamir Durrani  |  June 24, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    what i have an experience because waiter is serving you when you are hungry or in a mood to enjoy and getting the same result what you expect then internally you willing to pay him tip as far as fruit carts are concerned what i understand is when you are standing out from your car out and lots of people buying and doing the same practice so you internal chemical reaction pushed you to do the same, and i believe its environment which really makes the difference, you can try if you can buy the fruits from some departmental store than you will never do bargaining and if you are on the road then you make the same thing which others are doing…

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  • 12. Saleem Chohan  |  June 24, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    I think both the behaviors are self-centered — directed at making us feel good.

    When we haggle for a few rupees with sabzi or rickshaw wallah — since prices are not fixed or metered — we feel that we have saved ourselves from being cheated. We judge ourselves as being clever and sharp at having cut a good deal.

    While we give a tip to waiters, we feel good at being generous and being well off enough to give away some decent amount of money. Also, usually in company of others in such situations, we want to follow the set norm and portray the figure of a nice, decent and well-mannered person in front of others.

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  • 13. waisybabu  |  July 1, 2009 at 3:30 am

    I try not to bargain as aggresively as mother does (she is exceptionally awesome at it) but it’s a necessary procedure one has to go through. Otherwise, them keepers will flat out fleece you both in terms of the paisa you give to them, and the items they give back to you.

    I gave the McDonald’s delivery walaa some extra tip after he asked very politely. And I encouraged him to ask people for his tip.🙂 All the while, this post of yours was scratching me at the back of my head.

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  • 14. waisybabu  |  July 1, 2009 at 3:30 am

    *aggressively

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  • 15. Syed  |  July 1, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    Another way of thinking at it is that we often give more to beggars but we bargain to save smaller sum from shopkeepers. I think we should change our attitude to rather give a bit higher or atleast the same to those who are working hard to earn their money, rather than those who find begging to be more profitable business.

    This way we will encourage these small time business people to earn the livelihood in decent manner. For us that small amount might not make difference. But in the end it will make doing hard-work a more profitable business than begging.

    We have to stop thinking that a sabzi wala is robbing us of money, rather think of the phrase that Ashfaq Ahmed learnt from his baba jee. When baba jee paid a bit more to rickshaw guy and Ashfaq Ahmed asked him, he said: “Dittay wichoun hi dena hai”. meaning you only have to give from the money that was given to you.

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